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As you point out Gram the Chronicle is one of the worst publications in the country for selective reporting this is due partly to the editor of the paper a man by the name of Jim Williams who is well known for his left wing leanings and his bias attitude towards the Asian community. I have been told by a pal who has relatives working at the paper that it’s days may be numbered as it has seen the loss of 19,000 readers in the last two years and has already had to move it’s printing operation down to the daily mirrors plant on Hollinwood avenue due to spiralling costs
Oldham whie - 03/08/2007 08:44
u ppl who just post racist crap need to find something a lot better to do with ur lives
- 03/08/2007 15:06
It's a s*** hole, ran by a s*** council who seem to think their strategy of community coheesion actually works.
Asians don't like intergrating, and whites don't want asians for neighbours.
After all these years absolutely nothing has altered that fact.
I think were all wishful thinking if we think things are going to change soon:(
BTW i'm not a racist just a realist.;-)
scratch - 03/08/2007 17:09
u ppl who pretend that evrything is ok in the town need a good kick up the arse.
Oldham white - 03/08/2007 19:17
Some Asain guy is declaring Jihad on the west,Afew posts up.
Yet it`s the white folk who are Racsist?
- 04/08/2007 07:32
if he does he will miss out on his benifits
- 04/08/2007 10:29
No doubt he will claim that declaring a jihad is part of his culture whereas whenever we want to see the back of them it is just simply racist and as the last poster pointed out if they were to drive out all the white working class who would pay the taxes to fund their benefit claims. That is another point if as it is claimed by the lefty do gooders who stick up for these people that they came here because this country gives them a better standard of living than they had in Pakistan/Bangladesh or wherever then why do the constantly strive to turn this country in to another version of the s - -thole that they originated from?
- 04/08/2007 12:00
I read the oldham chroncile and they did specifically mention that the attackers (in the case of sexual assult on a woman) were asian.
- 05/08/2007 02:28
Yes they did eventually report the crime two days after the BBC and the M.E.N did and give the fact that both these media outlets had printed that the attackers were Asian the chronicle didn't have a lot of choice but to mention it. Of course it only warranted a mention on page 5 because the front page was taken up with the more important tale of which bloody dog had won their crap pet idol competition and how work could eventually start on the tram system in 2008. I wonder if the victim had been an Asian woman sexually assaulted by four white men whether or not the chronicle would have considered this more newsworthy, you bet your life they would.
Oldham white - 05/08/2007 15:48
yup , valid point again .
gram77ok - 06/08/2007 15:19
You are right, but how can we change it? We are always seemed to be owned by liberals, what can we do? Most of oldham is still voting for labour, what the f*** is wrong with the majority?
- 07/08/2007 01:16
loved oldham when it was run by oldhamers. but alas. m meacher put the big spanner in. and crunch. just to get his back bench votes in, he ruined this town. I hate millionairs, who play with peoples lives to get thier "FIX", this was once a fantastic town. stop the free loaders, get the asians and the muslims of our council, and lets get our town back on the map for the right reasons!!!!I,m sorry, but,if you out there, who cannot live in our culture. go home.....adjust or leave.racism does NOT enter into this debate.
ken robbie - 07/08/2007 20:02
Hello and my name is raeesah and my favourite part of oldham is the people{nice-kind- caring}and the streets.
When I went to oldham I loved it. it was nice beautiful and I stayed there
with my grandma it was nice but when I came back from bradford I always didde'nt ;like it because I missed oldham my stupid old dad said I can't live there because I've got karate {Ju-Jit-Su} even though I told him theres a karate in town but my mum said if your grandma goes outside somewhere to the docters then If I am not allowed then where can I let you go well I said I have lots of people to look after me she said like who I said like my cousins everyone. But everyone said NO!!!!!! I got fedup of telling them again and again can u help. love from Raeesah
Raeesah ahmed - 08/08/2007 10:01
I love nothing about the place, except my family and friends. Oh, and the fact that we abandoned the dump 3 yrs ago. We now live in Spain, with lots of other foreigners, only these are not all drowning in self pity and victimhood. Our children are classed as English here, and we teach them everything about THEIR history. Oh dear, not what the pc loonies had in mind. Are well, never mind. P.S Our children are receiving an education they could only dream of in Oldham.
Deb - 08/08/2007 18:36
Right! Are there any Muslims who care to explain how the comments made in the channel 4 documentary were taken out of context? for example, homosexuals should be thrown of a mountain and women who don't cover up should be beaten. Look forward to reading your answers.
young Enoch - 08/08/2007 20:00
oldham like a time bomb only have to walk through spindles u can sence it.
tick tock tick tock .and i aint the only one sayin it .
steve - 08/08/2007 23:16
look its phukked !
its got no future
no prospects
just want a bit more dosh and im deffo off
i hear the council reckon inside 4 years every council estate will have 10 asian families on them ....the next crucial phase of integration ....
yes folks apparently limeside , fitton hill, alt, holts ,derker,sholver ,etc are to cop for 10 families each....and they are paying them to move onto council estates .,....FACT ...as told to me by a council 'in the know' mole .
who has no need to lie , as every other thing he has told me in 9 years has happened ...
gram77ok - 09/08/2007 00:23
Yer all quiet now eh!
young Enoch - 09/08/2007 20:57
Well judging by the response of the majority of people who have taken the time to post on here then the general felling among the indigenous Oldhamers is that the town is in a mess and that the main reason for this is the large influx of unwelcome guests and their backward culture also the apparent suicidal policy of Oldham council to prioritise the wants of the foreign invaders over the needs of the people who have lived here all their lives.
So what to do about it? Obviously the most logical solution would be to vote out the lib/lab traitors that have made such a mess of this town for the last forty years or so but the question is what is the alternative obviously not the Conservatives as they would be as bad if not worse than the other two as they have proved in the past (1978-80). We do have of course the BNP but due to massive vote rigging in the past and the seemingly imposable scenario of dead Asian voters rising from the grave to vote for labour it is unlikely that we could ever see a victory for them via a fair election. Perhaps the answer lies in voting for independent candidates who by their very title have no allegiance to any of the bigger parties and perhaps will be more in touch with the local situation.
One of the biggest supporters of the doomed multicultural experiment is of course the hated but unchallenged Oldham evening Chronicle whose continual fawning and crawling to the Asian community and their council protectors make this publication and its editor the prime culprit in the downgrading of the white inhabitants of Oldham to second class citizens. The ways to fight back against this particular orgainisation is obviously not to purchases it (and let them know the reasons for your decision) or if you do feel a need to be aware of what particular lies, half truths and propaganda they are spouting then there is now an online option which costs nothing to subscribe to. If this option is taken then one way to vent your anger and frustrations about happening and events in the town is via the “letters to the editor” section but unfortunately your views should they be even printed are normally heavily edited and altered to such a degree that it makes the author appear stupid and uninformed and normally the force of the letter is lost due to the interference of the Marxist activities of the editor.
The most effective way that the white people of Oldham could be made aware of the truth is the emergence of a opposing publication to challenge the Chronicles total monopoly when it comes to reporting news in the town but this would obviously take a lot of money and time to organise and distribute so would need serious financial backing and an initial period of free distribution before it would begin to take effect and threaten the Chronicles totalitarian hold on what the people should and shouldn’t know.
Another way to challenge the powers that be in the town is to continually badger the councillors who are suppose to represent you whenever any scheme, development, or policy is put forward that appears to give preferential treatment to the Asian communities do not use language that could be construed as racist but rather argue your point logically and do not back down when the council try to use the phrase racist to try to intimidate you as is their policy.
Finally returning to the voting them out option according to the official statistics then it should be noted that the turnout for the May 2007 elections in Oldham was a mere 37.3 per cent of the people eligible to vote. Even given the fact that the council is know to turn a blind eye to the loss of votes especially ones that favour the BNP there are only so many votes they can realistically lose and obviously the more people that vote for a party that would treat indigenous Oldhamer equally then the harder the voting slips will be to lose .
Oldham white - 10/08/2007 10:07
minted post ....spot on ...and brilliant ..
meacher out !
gram77ok - 10/08/2007 20:56
sounds like gramm77ok has a hard on for oldham white, ah, young love.
the matchmaker - 11/08/2007 21:43
But is it worth it to just leave and leave the town to the dogs (whatever that means)? I mean you have the right to leave and improve your life somewhere else if you have the means, but if it's due only to asians, then it I think it is opting out. I think BNP is the way and if the turnout be, say, 80 percent or so, the situation would be very different. Evil triumphs when good people do nothing, so do what you can and atleast vote. And I agree with Oldham White's proposals.
- 11/08/2007 21:52
Ah! Matchmaker you know I only have eyes for you lol BTW nice attempt to trivialise the seriousness of the question of how to improve the town obviously you will have noticed that the “lets call them racists” ploy doesn’t work any more and because your arguments trying to defend the Asians and their puppet council have fallen flat you try ridicule as a weapon. Soz pal you are just to transparent, sooner or later white people in this country are going to wake up and realise just how little time they have left to stand up and be counted and are going to make the right decision when it comes to choosing who will look after their interests and trust me on this they aren’t gonna be thinking lib/lab con pal and you know it hence your clumsy attempt earlier 2 out of 10 for effort but you lack style … conclusion could do better.
Oldham white - 11/08/2007 22:26
Oldham used to be a nice friendly town, not any more. Its a landfill site. I cant see it ever changing even the council is corrupt and fill it's local people with lies. Oldham is a town thats died.
forever gone - 12/08/2007 00:36
The only people who can make things change are the townsfolk of Oldham
by voting out the traitors who are slowly but surely given this town to the incomers.
Oldham white - 12/08/2007 17:47
Look at the amount of money that has been spent in certain areas of oldham in the last few years. £52 million on Hathershaw and Fitton hill. What improvements have happened here, new street lights and a community centre. And where has any of the money been spent on Fitton hill, Most of the improvements have been carried out in Hathershaw.
Glodwick has had £53 million of grants in last 10 years, wheres the improvements there. Westwood has had £50 million of grants over last 10 years. And whats in common with these areas, predominatley asain.
Now how much money, Derker being an exception Derker has been spent on the predominatly white areas over the last 10 years, all the areas combined amount to less than hathershaw alone.
The amount the council spend per person per year also varies on colour
The asain community getting twice the amount of whites, afro caribean and chinese combined.
I have also lived in Glodwick, Coppice and Hathershaw and experienced first hand the intimidation from asains. My father who'd lived on coppice was contiually harrased by asains because they wanted his house. This included smashing his car up and breaking into his house
Now i know there are areas like Limeside and Fitton Hill are no go areas for asains, but the intimidation, or violence used is nowhere near as bad as Glodwick or other asain areas. The Gavin hopley murder proved that point and they got away with it, even tho it was on cctv.
An asain taxi driver gets murdered, not caught on tape, he gets life (rightly deserved btw). The race card is used in policing, housing and welfare all too often. It's time to stop being politically correct and stand up to whats really happening.
Politically incorrect - 13/08/2007 02:46
you r scared of asians. if asians are taking ova, that's because we have guts, which ya lack. we are just superior and you don't like that. so you are whinning. we f*** ya girls coz we can. ya can't come near our girls, coz 1st they dun like ya, and 2nd, we won't let ya. hahahahaha take care from Olhamistan. hahaha
Ali - 14/08/2007 00:51
ALI THE ONLY WHITE GIRLS U HAVE IS THE DIRTY ONES THAT THE GOOD WHITE MEN WILL NOT GO ANY WERE NEAR SO YOUR REALLY SCRAPIN THE BARRELL THERE AND NONE OF YOU LOT ARE HARD ON YOUR OWN ONLY IN GANGS YOU COWARDS
- 14/08/2007 12:53
IT TOOK ABOUT 10 OF YOU TO MURDER A YOUNG LAD DOIN NO HARM YOUR DIRTIER THAN SCUM. r.i.p gavin hopely
- 14/08/2007 12:56
There's an even more sinister problem in Oldham, and that's blacks. People concentrate on the Asians, but the blacks are laughing as they sell drugs/mug/rape etc.
Wake up.
Never Again! - 14/08/2007 13:43
Manchester is worse- the black areas like Moss Side get MILLIONS spent on them, whilst the white areas are run-down beyond belief!! This has been the case ever since the blacks smashed Moss Side to pieces (almost) in the early '80s rioting. Every week there's a shooting in 'Da Moss'.
Oldham will get it next.
Never Again! - 14/08/2007 13:52
Typical Asian idea of a fair fight is twenty of them on to one white and then the sh#thouses need weapons as well just in case, you will never see an Asian take anyone on one to one because they are all cowards. As for the white women that take up with them as the poster before pointed out they only get what we don’t want the real tramps that have no respect for themselves.
Oldham white - 14/08/2007 17:09
f***in oldham is doomed ...
the police council courts all running in fear of asians ...FACT policeman told me theyre hands are tied !
gram77ok - 14/08/2007 18:12
having seen the state of some of your girls we dont want to come near them they are very ugly maybe thats why they wear the burka
- 14/08/2007 20:01
thats why they have them on lol why shag asian woman when theres our lovely white woman
- 14/08/2007 20:05
survival of the fittest, eh? We are better fit to live here than you, we are living here under your government and police and even then you are scared of us and whining! hahaha what could be more pathetic than this? Imagine if you lived in Pakistan under paki police and government? We would have eaten you alive! we are capable of adopting to the hostile enviornment, while ya can't do anything about it even in your 'own' country hahahaha
You don't want our girls? hahahaa! Yeah, "graps are sour"! lol Our girls are modest, yoru girls are easy, so the obvious result is that we will be the ones f***ing your girls, not vice versa! YOu get it? Now leave this town quickly as possible and run away like the cowards you are! hahahaaaaa
Good night from Oldhamistan!
Ali - 14/08/2007 22:11
I don't think that Ali is a real rag head ether most likely some little s***ty arse wanna be a Muslim lefty computer geek sitting in his lonely little room tossing off over picks of Osama the goat shagger and red Ken Livingstone.
Oldham white - 15/08/2007 07:58
im a female white woman married with children own my own house and cars with hols twice a year abroad and no way on earth would i go with a muslim i have much more respect for myself and my body the only white woman you get are the dirty ones that our proud white men wouldnt even wipe there bums on so i think you are the dumb ones on here bragging about doin white woman that know one wants apart from you desperate muslims oh by the way after doin these so called woman do you go back and do your wife or whats the word for em erm...inbreds
- 15/08/2007 14:48
do you know why black men have big peckers because god gave them one instead of a brain
- 15/08/2007 18:05
glodwick is a tuff area and it can take sum skills to survie there u can get in too deep s*** man its a small town but with big hopes big up 2 all ma Gs there braapp!!!!
g/w member - 16/08/2007 17:43
I am an Asian Muslim girl from Oldham and I can say without any doubt that you are talking nonsense. I have two brothers and both of them are dating white girls who are quite pretty - I have seen them. My father doesn't approve but my brothers don't listen to him. And it's really because white girls are easy to get with and their families don't mind if they go out with boys. My brothers wouldn't find Asian girls to date becuase if they go out with Asian girls the community would shun them.
And no, the girls dating my brothers are very pretty and nice, not sluty or trashy as you put it. They are not like typical white girls actually, they are planing to marry my brothers. They are the rarer white girls who know how to respect themselves and stick with one man at a time. So I advice you to keep your analysis to yourself and don't talk about matters you have little knowledge of.
Salaam.
Huma Naz - 16/08/2007 19:54
so long as ita not my daughter
- 16/08/2007 20:12
black man was talking to a white man and said :
I''m black.
When I was born I was black.
When I grew up I was black.
When I'm sick I'm black.
When I go in the sun I'm black.
When I'm cold I'm black.
When I die I'll still be black.
But you, When you were born you were pink.
When you grew up you were white.
When your sick you're green.
When you go in the sun you're red.
When you're cold you're blue.
When you die you'll be purple.
And you have the nerve to call me colored. Pass this on and stop racism
some guy - 16/08/2007 21:45
Some guy, not just black, don't forget to mentoin the shades of violet, not to mention dark spots - yuk.
- 17/08/2007 00:44
So you retract your initial comments about white girls who date Asian men? Thank you.
I hope your daughter falls in love with a good, caring, handsome Asian man and that will be the day you will stop being racist completely! Insha'Allah!
Salaam
Huma Naz - 17/08/2007 00:49
she will never fall in love with an asian man she has to much to lose and besides she can not stand them so there is little chance thank god it is not racist and if it is why are asians girls not allowed to go out with white men if they do you disown them and it pus shame on your family and what about honour killings we call it murder
- 17/08/2007 08:52
id like to comment to the asian female im a white female many many years ago i went out with a muslim lad for 5 years i wasnt sluty i dressed nice and came from a v.good upbringing (my parents didnt know)he was my 1st proper boyfriend from glodwick i was and still am very atractive (not bein bigheaded)so i could have my pick of any1 really but i fell in love with this lad both of us suffered lots of predudice off both white and asians even beaten up i even learnt urdu his brother would also look out for me id met his sisters and many of his family but simply his dad hated me by the way this lad was the eldest son(you know what i mean)as our relation ship went on i became pregnant thats when this loveing packistani lad turned he told me i must have an abortion as no way on this earth would a white woman would have his child as were not good enough lets just say he beat me every day to cause a misscarriage now dont forget i was only18 at this time very young and silly and i loved him nature took its toll and i lost the baby after a while i got pregnant again and it all happened as with the 1st in the end he was having an arranged marriage to his cousin in packistan and wanted to have me as his mistress bit on the side i ended it if i wasnt good enough to marry him then he good get stuffed what im tryin to say is muslim men will never respect a white woman they treat you like s*** so these white girls (some are trash)not all i wasnt,need to open there eyes some do marry asian lads ive seen it but 80%it will not happen no matter what now my ex is married to this thing who looks ugly i know looks are not eveything doesnt speak any english and is v.unhappy for what repect for his parents but no doubt hes out doin these trashy girls and any girl who does these married men weather white or asian are trash and when my parents did find out they hit the roof likewise his family and i was moved to another part of the country to be kept out of the way of him my choice as well because of everything that happened to me i had a breakdown now im married to a white man i dont mess with other men and would never anyway he doesnt mess with other woman and wouldnt and gives me the upmost respect i never ever got with the asian lad so what my opinion is dont mix asian and white it will never work ive been their
mel - 17/08/2007 11:08
You are right, no decent white girl goes any way near an asian man. If she is decent, she must be naive or both - like the last poster mentioned that she was naive.
david - 17/08/2007 13:41
well the post up there doesnt sound decent to me her own fault daft cow
- 17/08/2007 14:07
my god what a prat you are i suppose you have never made a mistake have you?i own my own house n cars my husband as his own buisness we are both very happily married for 10 years that was my past which im not proud of but s*** happens and it wont happen again i was just tryin to add my own comment and i am desent very desent indeed
mel - 17/08/2007 14:12
Reply to Huma Naz.Since when were you sent in judgement of white women? You would do better to focus on controlling your women hating men. Your men are the most hatefilled, violent, ugly, vicious, cold-hearted men to walk this earth. They think nothing of murdering innocents, christian or muslim. They control their women out of fear, not because they care or respect you. Your men would drop their pyjamas to oblige a rabid rat, if the rat was obliging. Do you attack white women because you don't have the guts to take your men on? Have you ever heard of the Suffragette movement? It is something that you and your weak friends undermine at every turn.Perhaps you should focus on cleaning up the serious social ills in your own garden, i.e the murder of women in your culture that wish to choose their own path in life, not his path. When you have succeeded in doing this, then by all means you can come and help clean our gardens. But given that most of you appear unable to even pick up the litter around your homes,I expect I shouldn't hold my breath in the expectation that the rights of women in your culture will change anytime soon.
Freedom for women - 17/08/2007 14:13
It depends. There are many white men who treat their girlfriends and wives like trash. That does not mean you can indict all white men. You must be careful about entering a relationship with ANY man. I agree some Muslim men have negative opinions about white women and only want them for easy sex but you can't put all the blame solely on them because there are many white women who confirm to this (mis)conception by their behaviour.
You have to understand the ethnical standards of the man you are starting a relationship with. Usually Musilm men are aware of the fact that in Islam pre-maritial sex is a sin, so it is a given that most Muslim men engaging in it would just be using the women for sex, because they would be engaging in an activity they consider immoral deep down, while the woman might not realize this becuase she might hold different standards of morality. In the end it all goes wrong.
So I think white women should also become more responsible about who they are entering a relationship with. In my opinion the way to judge the character of a Muslim male is to see whether he gives importance to his religion but at the same time is not hesitant about engaging in pre-marital sex. In this case, the man most likely simply wants to use you for sex because at his heart he finds you slutty - willing to engage in an activity he considers immoral (but can't help himself stay away from it).
A good Muslim man will be very reluctant to go all the way before marriage. I know a white woman who is in a relationship with a Muslim Arab man for two years but they have never crossed the line, if you know what I mean. They are planning to marry each other. Same is the case with my brothers' girlfriends.
Besides I think education is important to change misconceptions on both sides.
As for the question about Muslims men not wanting their daughters to go out with white men, it is not due to racism for the most part. Most Muslim men will not allow their daughter to have an extra-marital relationship with ANY man, be he Muslim Asian, or white. I agree wtih this but sometimes I find it too restricting.
Salaam
Huma Naz - 17/08/2007 14:29
glodwick is a tuff area and it can take sum skills to survie there u can get in too deep s*** man its a small town but with big hopes big up 2 all ma Gs there braapp!!!!
frm the gehhto - 17/08/2007 14:43
so all in all there a no real good muslim men really coz most are out there havin sex and just to let you open eyes more which you wont most asian muslim girls are havin sex but anal sex so that they are virgins in one sense open your eyes sex is sex no matter wot religion you are and just coz a white woman doesnt cover up when dressin doesnt mean shes a slut here in england we dress how we want when we want and we wont let no preacher tell us what to do
- 17/08/2007 16:35
little miss dogooder it wasnt easy sex it was3 years b 4 anything happened as i thought we would get married i was young and silly at the time but then again this good little muslim man will not be entering heaven after what he did i think even allah will be quite pissed off with him hypercrites the lot of them and ive never met a white man who would treat a female like that open your eyes 80% of muslim men are like this even your brothers you only know what you want or are told to know your below your brothers weather you like it or not
mel - 17/08/2007 16:41
glodwick a tough area is it balls you cant fight on your own you need a gang us in werneth kick your backsides all time and you think your gangsters you would s*** yourself faced with a proper gangster
tariq - 17/08/2007 16:44
keep with your own people in your country of origin forget stupid religion praying to stupid statues that are made for a couple of quid probaley by the same people who make the tat on fun fairs shaking your silly heads back and forth what a waste of time
- 17/08/2007 19:14
My dad could 'ave your dad any day. Have you listened to yourselves, you want to call yourselves aside, You stupid shower of knobs.
- 17/08/2007 19:39
grow up pillock
- 17/08/2007 19:51
what, did you just read one message "pillock", read the rest and you'll see that i'm calling them what you've just called me, you knob!!!
- 17/08/2007 20:46
i think you should be in bed now its past your bedtime
- 17/08/2007 21:22
Mel, I was not refering to you specifically. Anyway, you went through a lot misery partially because your parents weren't keeping a check on you. If they knew about your relationship, they might have given you proper advice. This is what Asian parents do - they don't want us to go through all the sufferings only to learn afterwards. They teach us beforehand. If you were a bit less 'free' and a bit more controlled, you wouldn't have experienced so much pain. You admit you were youthful and silly; so isn't it better if we let our parents - who have a lot more experience in life than us - participate in important matters like relationship and marraige that affect us girls so deeply? If you have done that, your experience wouldn't have been so miserable. This is Asian/Islamic cultural wisdom, which sometimes you people fail to grasp.
But I am glad to know that you life is peaceful now. Wish you well.
Anyways, I don't agree with you that 80 percent Muslim men are like that. There are bad men in every race who want to use women as sex objects. And the behaviour of many white women doesn't help either - they seem to play in the hands of all kinds of exploiters, be they Asian or white.
Salaam
Huma Naz - 17/08/2007 21:42
On an another note, I have heard many white girls complain about harassment from Asian men. Now in my opinion if white girls wore modest dresses (not necassarily veil), many of these incidents could be avioded. I am not justifying the abusers - no way. The harassers are absolutely reprehensible and, to add to that, I also knwo there are Asian men who would harass any white girl however modest she maybe because of the racist misconception regarding white women being easy. I not defending these kind of men, but only pointing out that many times wearing skimy outfits like short skirts and shorts kind of emboldens these silly men to have a go.
So I think wearing whatever you want even if it's immodest is not the way to go. It just gives harassers what they are looking for. That's my opinion.
Salaam
Huma Naz - 17/08/2007 21:59
u will see at the end ov time wat the truth is all u whit ppl remeber these words mark em in ya heads bitches islam is the truth
- 18/08/2007 02:14
sounds like you have all been brainwashed again
- 18/08/2007 08:26
what a patronising person you are everyone needs to make their own choices weather or not people get hurt along the way parents can only say so much i didnt tell my parents as they would have done their nut being involved with a asian lad thats why asian girls act like 3 year old kids as they dont have the freedom like we do and how dare you blame woman dressing on how they want on dirty old perverts sayin that in a way its their own fault people can dress how they want and not have dirty seedy men takin advantage (both black and white its like sayin the muslim woman who dress in those stupid outfits that only their eyes peep out of their quite intimerdating i feel sometimes like rippin them off their face how dare they in my country have them on and whos going to look at them anyway like there some supermodel yeah right but then again this country is freedom of what we wear or not wear and as for white woman being easy some woman even muslim woman any race can be just that like ive said b4 ive known lots of asian girls who have sex but (anal)so that they keep their virginity so to speak so dont put all the blame on white girls sometimes i feel really sorry for asian girls as i know loads that have to marry their inbred cousins in packistan and they dont want to were as white woman marry who they love anyway at the end of the day there are bad and good in any race and relationships oh yeah and i wasnt allowed to run free like you say both my parents worked odd hours so i would go out when they were at work plus i was workin to so i was a young adult learning bad and good for myself i cant imagine a asian girl thinking for herself through all that childless gigglin in their 9 inch stilletoes
mel - 18/08/2007 14:59
hear hear
- 18/08/2007 16:41
wtf u on abwt ?
- 18/08/2007 19:59
i have lived in oldham all my life(60yrs)but i hate it now ialways voted labour now i vote bnp .my friend was walking home from Aldi on middleton rd in westwood she was attacked at knife point & her money was taken by 2 asian men she is terrified now whats it come to when you cant walk home fronm a supermarket in the day time .as for oldham market its now an asisn market ,there is nothing for me and my friends to buy we dont go near it now . most of these asions dont like us and we dont like them . all the money is spent on their arears .i have been trying to get a council house ,i cant get one at all ,i drove through an asian area there were brand new 4 ,5 bed roomed houses with gardens ,i just couldnt believe it . oldham is a mess the inside market is nearley all asian shops selling a lot of cheap rubbish .
its not just asians ,i had my purse stolen by a romanian gypsy in a charity shop the policeman said they come out in gangs all the time and they are so good at it they pass it on so quick you can never catch them .who has let them into this country when they have no job can any one tell me ?
another thing about asians they breed like rabbits they have all these kids because they want to rule the whole world and it be an islamic world i feel sorry for young white kids i dread to think what the future holds for them
sonya 18/08/2007
sonya - 18/08/2007 20:41
i am also joining the bnp i do not and will not buy anything of an asian if everybody did that they could not survive with the rubbish that they sell you do have a choice even a hindu does not get on with a muslim thats why they split india in two so how are we supposed to get on
- 18/08/2007 21:18
yh i agree the asians are not trust worthy to buy stuff off they very devilsh when iy comes to dat
- 19/08/2007 00:14
tick tock
- 19/08/2007 01:30
wat u mean tick tock ?
- 19/08/2007 01:47
I am a white girl who married a muslim. He treats me very nice. All this rubbish about them treating white girls badly is lies. Tariq has only ever hit me 3 times and each time it was my fault. One day i forgot to cover up and the other 2 were cause i gave him daughters instead of a son. I am pregnant again so hopefully this time I'll do right by him. Please stop the lies my Tariq is great.
susan K - 19/08/2007 16:34
woman beater
- 19/08/2007 17:37
if you was my daughter and he hit you he would not do it again i would make sure of that it just shows what kind of cretin he his
- 19/08/2007 18:58
Pity Tariq wasn't thrilled at the birth of his daughters. But like I said previously, they are women haters.
Freedom for women - 19/08/2007 19:17
muslim men treat women like rubbish,so he hit you because you had girls, do you know what some of these muslims do ,they murder baby girls at birth i feel sorry for you ,you should have hit him isnt the man the one who determins the sex of a child .a man should never hit a women ,what will you do if you have another girl ,get another good hiding .i think you must be a bit thick putting up with all this crap
sonya - 19/08/2007 19:21
i forgot to ask was there not enough white men around for you
you want to be very carefull the next thing will be an honor killing ,then you wont be able to put things on this site because you will be dead .
sonya - 19/08/2007 19:28
i think personally this susan is talking crap and just tryin to stir trouble up and is not married to a muslim as having daughters is something to be proud of
mel - 19/08/2007 19:49
Mel, I am not trying to be patronizing. I am simply noting that had your parents known about your relationship they would have given you the right advice and as a result of that you might not have gone through all the trouble. I really do not get your point - are you saying all girls should go through a troubled relationship before learning what is good for them? What are society and parents for then?
I am simply trying to make you and others here understand why Muslim parents put certain restrictions on their daughters. It is for the good of the girls themselves. Just as you say your parents were protective, so are Muslim parents. Is this a bad thing?
Salaam.
Huma Naz - 19/08/2007 23:46
And I am not blaming the women for what some Asian males are up to. I am simply noting that many white girls have complained (they said to my face things like "your men are all perverts", etc) about harassment from Asain men. I condemn those men, but I am simply saying that wearing provocative dresses only emboldens these men to have a go at the girls. Why give to the perverts what they are looking for?
Salaam
- 19/08/2007 23:57
Hahahaha! the army of big brains and big dicks have arrived at yar shores! that's why we pakis not only surpass you in education and business, but also get your girls! hahahaaa our plan is to f*** you out of existence hahahahaaaaa
ya are really scared of asians? ya should be because ya are inferior and we are superior to ya pink faced honkeys. hahahaaa
and shut the f*** up you idiot huma naz. you are sucking up to these honkeys, and dissing asians, shut yar mouth! asian men don't harass white girls, it is white girls who come to us coz they like us! just like they have come to yar brothers! it is only those ugly white girls who are rejected by asian men complain about harassment and such...so shut up.
and don't talk about what a good muslim man is like, sex with girls is ok as long as the girls are not muslims! screwing kaffir girls is ok. look, what do these white girls really want? f***ing, what else? so why shouldn't we give them what they want? muslim girls want to be modest, that is how it should be.
and again, shut up!
Ali - 20/08/2007 00:17
Ali,
It is because of people like you that the image of Islam and British Pakistani community is getting tarnished. You are a disgrace to our community, and I must admit there are many spoilt brats like you among our youth. We as a community needs to solve this problem.
You are such an obnoxious guy. Not all whites girls want to sleep around, and may I add not all Asian girls are angels. And don't you ever agian talk about my brothers' girlfriends. I don't want a spoilt little gangster wannabe like you to say anything about them in the same breath as you tarnish all white girls.
You are quite ignorant as well. Islam prohibits all kinds of pre-marital relationships, be it with Muslim or non-Muslim. A good Muslim man would respect all women regardless of faith and race. You obviously do not; and you are neither a good Muslim nor a good human being.
Shame on you
Salaam
Huma Naz - 20/08/2007 01:39
good on ya saleem you sound a nice sensable guy there should be more like you
sonya - 20/08/2007 12:01
My Tariq would never let any of his family touch me so i don't think i will be killed like you said. As for the white boys they all used to pick on me cause of my birth mark and Tariq could see beyond that. He looked after me and got me a job in his brothers factory sewing and that. Being hit a couple of times is a small price for someone to take care of you.
susan K - 20/08/2007 12:24
dont think ali as a brain and wont have a clue on what any1 says on here aw bless hes sounds like hes only about 5 year old and is lula is that of a 5 year old lol oh and this suppose susan k is a man pretending to be a woman its a stupid boy tring out his crap on here imo
mel - 20/08/2007 15:42
Who cares about whether or not Tariq is a good or bad husband or if Huma naz wants to integrate or if Ali thinks he’s a hard boy non of you belong here with your backward customs and your stinking curry houses just go back to the land of your fathers and take the traitorous whites who think you are so wonderful with you.
Oldham white - 20/08/2007 19:11
mel, why did ya fall for an asian guy? i know why, you knew we had big lulas, no? hahahaaaaaaaaaaaa
was it just too big for ya ta take? hahahaaaaaaaa
- 20/08/2007 21:22
wots the difference with glodwick n werneth all the boys in glodwick are pussys n men in werneth r d best
farooq - 20/08/2007 21:47
shut ya farooqi, we should stand together to get rid of these whites, not fight between us, glodwick the best
ali - 20/08/2007 22:09
ohlham whitey, you want us outa here? MAKE US, I DARE ya. hahahaaaa
ali - 20/08/2007 22:12
you hit me first, no you hit me first. back to school soon, ali and farooq will have detention on there first day back. your parents would be ashamed of you
- 21/08/2007 12:49
There have been an amazing amount of (supposedly) curry eaters on this site lately all professing to be tough guys or gangsters but in a one to one situation Asians are devout cowards. Just recently in Oldham the police (eventually) broke up a drugs ring that had been operating in the town and when you read the list of names of the dealers most of them appear to be Asians which goes to prove that all that they bring to this town are gang fights and drugs you are all spineless scum!
Oldham 88 - 21/08/2007 20:05
For fecks sake, curry fecking ice-cream!!!! What about pie and chip ice-cream for the whites, talk about discrimination.
- 21/08/2007 20:12
My opinion of Oldham. Depressing diversity dumping ground. Dark (very dark),Dismal, dreary, dilapidated, ,deteriorating daily, drug dealers den,devoid of hope. The result of our wonderful multicultural society where we all can live unhappily ever after.
DB - 22/08/2007 15:37
I agree with the poster that proclaims all Asians are cowards this is so true remember the old gent Walter Chamberlain who was attacked by five of these verminous creatures while walking through Westwood, or the racist murder of Gavin Hopley who while trying to get home got lost and had the misfortune to wander in to the cess pit known as Glodwick where he was kicked to death by about twenty scumbag Asians. These chickens*** sub humans can only fight in gangs and then they also need weapons
- 22/08/2007 16:41
First of let me say that the name refers to the make of car I drive and nothing to do with the colour of my skin.
I was born in Oldham over 50 years ago and I am still proud of being an Owd'amer.
The comments I have read appear to be against immigrants moving into Oldham.
Oldham is becoming a ghetto because Oldhamers move out and then blame immigrants taking their place. A typical case of NIMBY attitude.
Black LE - 22/08/2007 23:53
you can say what you think so long as the thought is allowed
Oldham white - 24/08/2007 20:40
Too much is made of the negative side of Oldham, thanks mainly to the media. Oldham was and still is a great town. If anyone bothers to look at its history, they will discover a Cotton town which,in its heyday, spun more cotton per day than all the mills of Germany and France put together. When the American Civil War stopped cotton coming to the UK, Oldham Council set up a scheme employing the laid off cotton operatives in building, by hand, Alexandra Park. Other towns in the North West allowed their cotton workers to starve.
Genuine Oldham people are warm and friendly folk who don't usually suffer fools gladly, although they put up with the fools who run the town, (some would say 'into the ground!').
A series of bad planning decisions have adversely affected the town of late, (for instance, Oldham is becoming known as Camel Town because of all the road humps some brainless gawp has decided are a good idea). Oldham folk traditionally accepted immigrants from foreign climes into their midst with a merry 'Awm reet glad fer t' meet thi, sit thi deawn un tarry a while. Wheer art from?' Irish, Scot, Pole, Ukrainian, Caribbean and Asian were all welcomed, and left their mark on the colourful culture of the town, but when authority started to dictate race relations, something which Oldhamers did naturally, many resented the interference in a natural Oldham process and the rot started.
The whisper now is 'get rid o' t' do-gooders, un we'll be alreet, thank you very much!'
God Bless Oldham, and everyone who lives their, irrespective of Race, Creed, Colour or Gender!!
Martyn Atkinson - 24/08/2007 23:54
Stansville!
- 25/08/2007 01:12
i take it you dont live in oldham then probably the council estates in delph
mel - 25/08/2007 14:18
Well said Mel! Let those who are so excited at the idea of multiculturalism be the first to go live in these wonderful areas. Send their kids to sink schools. But the reality is they have no intention of living there, they just want to force it on everyone else. I wonder how many of the white imbecile councillors of Oldham actually live in Oldham, let alone live in a wonderful diverse community. I will hazard a guess hmmmm,let me see. The number 0 springs to mind. If I am mistaken, they can always post a message to let us know how well they are all rubbing along and how wonderful life is for them. I look forward to reading about WHICH AREAS THEY LIVE IN and reading all about their rosy lives.
DB - 25/08/2007 15:08
if the asians insult the whites on here it stays if a white does the same its took off the board what does that tell you dogooders you just sit back in your delph slums and watch our country go down the pan i for 1 will fight for my country and i will be politically INCORRECT if you dont like my opinions TOUGH
mel - 25/08/2007 19:36
derker and proud and none of them here hahahaha
MEL - 25/08/2007 19:37
good morning everyone
- 26/08/2007 10:37
i am an asian moving to derker soon to granite st with my extended family you wont be laughing then hahahaha
- 26/08/2007 10:39
I'll be looking for you. And guess what, you would certainly not be laughing!
david - 26/08/2007 18:13
Martyn is a leftist dogooder.
David - 26/08/2007 18:15
asians takin' ova! I am also heading to derker, to make it a little bit darker! hahahahaaaa
weak c***s will always blame someone else for their own problems, yesterday it was blacks and jews, now it is Muslim asians. but guess what, you'll never achieve your goal of getting rid of asians. asians will keep doin' ya! we love outdoing ya both in the battle field and in bed! that's why not only you are scared of us, you are also mad at us coz your women always choose us over ya anyday!
hahahahahaaaaaaaaaa!
ali - 26/08/2007 18:26
i will be laughing as my friends will move in also and de value your property it is now time for you to leave give us two years and your houses will be worthless to the whites of derker hahahaha
- 26/08/2007 18:37
like your really asian ...pmsl
who gives a f*** m.
anyone with a brain can see oldham is f***ed !
have derker , i bet you get hammered out and off though !
gram77ok - 27/08/2007 03:45
i wont get hammered out the people seem nice and also i have many friends in derker so you are talking silly we will settle in vey nice thankyou and i love the park KAMAL
- 27/08/2007 11:51
gram77ok, so what's your problem? you admit asians are superior and have taken over. You admit that asian screw your girls (your words) but you can't even go near an asian girl. you admit that the council, the police, the media all suck up to asians. so what else is left to admit? now wallow in shame and cry that you have been born white. the best you can do now is to become a gay asian's bitch, this way you may redeem yourself just as your white girls do every single day of the weak! hahaaa
ali - 27/08/2007 11:52
anyway, when i post i post as ali, don't confuse me with other posters.
ali - 27/08/2007 11:55
Please people, don't listen to Ali. He is a jerk who has nothing better to do than sit on a computer and type inanities. His types are not representative of British Asian community anymore than BNP is representive of the British public as a whole. He probably has had miserable failures with girls so he is frustrated. My advice to him is to pray to Allah (saw) to grant him peace of mind.
Salaam
Huma Naz - 28/08/2007 12:12
oldham
a dreary depressing place - couldn't wait to leave!
never looked back since.
kathryn - 31/08/2007 13:11
it depends on which part of oldham you were from there are some lovely places in oldham so i think you are quite wrong there!
mel - 31/08/2007 16:47
It all Stuffed, no one want to come to Oldham, Only leave.It was good 15 years ago,but the complete area as change.
- 01/09/2007 01:20
the only thing that is wrong with oldham is that there are to many racist and ignorant people here OF ALL RACES, i do live in oldham...and before you say it--i do not live anywhere near delph
- 01/09/2007 14:44
lol not even the delph council estates bet you do
- 01/09/2007 16:17
there are good and bad in all races, its just a shame that the voice of the minority seems to be heard over the majority voice, the majority of people in this world just want to get on with their own life-just get on with your life, or go and get one.
- 01/09/2007 18:18
if they cant get on in there own countries with there own type there will never be a chance here and it is only getting worse cant people have the sense to see that it is not rocket science it only takes a minuite to work it out
- 01/09/2007 20:23
duh! people who are born in this country dont get on with each other - but they move to other countries, does that rule work for everyone? or just asian people???
- 01/09/2007 22:36
you are right just for asian people you are spot on
- 02/09/2007 11:37
Morning all just got back from a week in sunny Spain and Oldham is still a Asian infested dump. What a wonderful week it was not a burka in sight apparently they don't allow them lol the burka that is not the Asians unfortunately
Oldham white - 03/09/2007 10:43
stay in spain
- 03/09/2007 22:56
its time oldhamers realised that REAL OLDHAMERS just dont count anymore . the corrupt council is only interested in pleasing the bloody invaders .
must be some really big bungs and backhanders being given to all these bent voting scamming bleeders ...
leaving in 5 weeks can't wait !
blinkers off - 04/09/2007 04:45
How can I stay in Spain when I stated I have just got back you brain dead moron
Oldham white - 04/09/2007 10:54
the dirty scum on front of oldham chronicle i for one hope he is gang raped in jail and dies of aids and passes it to all his inbred family ive only just read it and i had to put my dinner in bin 12years old she was by the way if your so hard in glodwick do the right thing and get round to his house and sort him out as he will probably out of prison in 2years for good behaviour
mel - 04/09/2007 20:33
would like to here what that young girl would say in a few years after being raped and beaten at 12 years old,
if he where in his own country .He would have probably have been beheaded,and his cowardly mates.The law needs to protect our chirldren from scum like this .
steve - 04/09/2007 20:46
but they dont and that scum will be out soon but men and woman of england let this happen we need something better and much bigger than the bnp
MEL - 04/09/2007 20:53
coz their s***e and sweet fa all mouth and no proper action
mel - 04/09/2007 20:54
i take it no one wants to fight 4 their country then what a joke
MEL - 04/09/2007 21:07
They Guy who got sent down for rape...
I agree wit Steve. He should have been beheaded...
Ok about this Asian thing. People have forgotten about Myra Hindley. The truth is there are bad people in both parts of the society. The day we realise that is the day we actually do something about these scum. It’s our children that walk the streets and have to work together to do something about this. People don’t see the good things in our society, but only what the media report. And the Media only report controversial stories which will sell papers.
Ok you talk about people that don’t integrate in the society, and make there own societies, well if you go Spain, you don’t seem to miss the large ENGLISH societies that have been created there… My girlfriend is Spanish and she tells me that she hates the English in Spain, because they flaunt there money which only incites the hatred between the rich and the poor. So when the English people create there own little societies is that not what the Asian are doing here. Its only human nature, too stay in groups with people, especially if you have moved to a new location from the same location geographically.
I have many Asian friends and they are very broad minded people. The third generation tend integrate a lot. And many tell that there parents or grandparents find it hard to mix. Mostly because they were victimised of there colour. So it’s only our fault that they created there communities.
But we have to go past this and look to the future none of us are moving from here. So we should look to the positive and try working on the negative that is coming out of this community.
Johm - 04/09/2007 22:18
fuk off johm u c***. your a paki lover
BNP - 04/09/2007 22:20
BNP your just jelous because no one gave you love....
John - 04/09/2007 22:23
if all ppl from ethnic minorites left then there wud b no UK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- 04/09/2007 22:26
Well thank you for your wonderful incite to life in Spain, regarding the ENGLISH! I suspect your Spanish girlfriend is unable to identify that many of the so called English you refer to are in fact Irish and Scottish as well as ENGLISH. We left Oldham years ago, we don't have money to splash around. We live with SPANISH, DANISH, FINISH, GERMANS AND MEXICANS. Our children go to Spanish school, as do many other BRITISH children here, though not all of them do.The difference I notice here, where we are, is that there isn't one group that repeatedly wishes to be seen as a poor victim, whilst busily creating victims of their own. The same cannot be said about Oldham. As I have experienced both sides of the coin, I hope you can appreciate that what I have written, is based on that, and not on what somebody told me. The Spanish people have been brilliant with us, perhaps because we have tried to join in with them and not because we repeatedly scream to be the same whilst screaming to be different. That is the biggest problem in Oldham.
DB - 05/09/2007 00:47
Whay u meen John,no one is moving from here,were are moving out so fast you will be left behind and stuck with it.
ED - 05/09/2007 06:17
Springhead is also stuffed,out of here.
- 05/09/2007 06:19
well john as for english flaunting their money thats what you do on holiday you work hard all year for 1/2 weeks in the year puttin money in spanish pockets my how bitter is your girlfriend i love the spanish apart from the bitter ones.and as for being victimised for the colour (asians) dont talk s***e there the ones stuck in their ways and many of the younger ones have so much hatred and the older ones dont like their own becoming westernised so get to specsavers and open your eyes
mel - 05/09/2007 09:27
as for the post whos name is b.n.p what do they do nowt they so talk so much crap and do nowt
mel - 05/09/2007 09:29
OMG, I cant beleive the s*** that some of the people on here are spouting off!
If you all actually concerntrated on the real issues of this town or the country as a whole we might actually get this country on the right track, the real problems at the moment is 1)gun culture 2)knife culture 3)gang related crimes *COMMITED BY ALL RACES*
4)government 5)the youth today 6)drugs 7)NHS 8)prisons and so on, they are the 8 biggest problems in this country excluding the racism that is, there needs to be a shake up of everything, the government should stop spending billions fighting in an un-necessary war and start concerntrating on the issues that are going to boil over in this country. There is no deterant for crimes these days that is why the youth of today are out of control - they know that no matter what they do - there will be no punnishment for it, that is wrong!!! nasty hateful people come in all shapes and sizes or in this case all colours and religions, so really it is not fair for you lot on hear to single out the brown muslim people of oldham, there are so many nasty WHITE people out there in oldham-should they be sent back to where their family originated from (which isnt england) erm... no i thought not - just because they was born in this country and they are white this doesnt mean that they have pure british blood in them, so when u all say 'send them back to their own country' you need to THINK about what you are actually saying, because you dont make sense. And just because i have had my say on this matter it doesnt mean that i favour any religion or race!!! i am an open minded person who lives in a not so gd white area of oldham, I know that mean i could live on quite a few of the fantastic estates but as i have a family i do not wish to disclose my exact location-which i believe is my right, thank you for reading my opinion.
take a look at youselves & the real issues - 05/09/2007 10:17
Totally agree mate
- 05/09/2007 10:19
in 1969 enoch powell said in the speach most people remember that if immigration eas not curbed the streets in years to come would be flowing in blood he has noe been proved right b ut no one in office would listen to him
- 05/09/2007 11:52
i my family n their familys were all born and bred here though i do believe my late aunt was cleopatra
mel - 05/09/2007 13:11
I think you left the biggest concern of all off your list IMMIGRATION
- 05/09/2007 14:08
mel u need to invest in a dictionary
- 05/09/2007 19:46
Im sorry that my list didn't include immigration, I probably thought that all those I mentioned mattered a bit more
- 05/09/2007 19:48
u need to invest in some manners
mel - 05/09/2007 20:05
I think if we dealt with IMMIGRATION first, we wouldn't have a fraction of the problems you mentioned!
- 05/09/2007 20:38
mel - manners!!! i have got them unlike some
- 05/09/2007 20:43
Again news about asians involved in sex attacks against white females. The leftists are a disgrace, they have no shame at all. What if their sister or daughter were the victims?
david - 06/09/2007 00:41
there are more sexually motivated attacks from white males oh and as we have seen in the news last week, from white females too. people point the finger to quickly around here-stand in the mirror and point it.
- 06/09/2007 01:16
TEENAGER will have metal plates in his jaw for the rest of his life after a gang viciously attacked him – for a slice of pizza hmmm yes white people are very civilised-sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture
- 06/09/2007 01:29
NEW Oldham Athletic signing Lee Hughes has walked free from jail and straight into another ban – after being red-carded in his last game for his prison team.
The former Premiership footballer, who served half of his six-year sentence after killing a grandfather in a hit-and-run, was released on Monday.
The 31-year-old was banned from driving for 10 years after being convicted of causing death by dangerous driving and leaving the scene of an accident.
HOW CAN OLDHAM SIGN HIM AFTER WHAT HE DID??????
- 06/09/2007 01:31
You leftists are dead wrong. I hate to sound crude but you will only realize when something like this happens to you or your loved ones. Police has over the years launched special investigations into Asian men abusing underage white girls in many parts of Britain. There is always some kind of news about asian men ausaulting white females, etc. Harrassment is rampant, which does not even make the news. Don't think so that you just import people from pakistan, you also import their culture and mindset with them, and if you think its so rosy, why don't you go live in Pakistan?
david - 06/09/2007 04:30
The boys from Breeze Hill school that come on to this site will be suspended from school. This is because it is a racist site.
Mr Hartley - 07/09/2007 12:19
happy st georges day
sandra - 24/04/2008 16:21